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Authentic Voices:
Conversations on Food and Agriculture

 
Dr. Ted Bestor

Bringing Home the Sushi: Food as a way of understanding each other's livelihoods

Interview with Theodore C. Bestor
Professor
Department of Anthropology and Reischauer Institute for Japanese Studies
Chair of the Social Anthropology Wing, Department of Anthropology
Harvard University

By Norma Sakamoto-Larzalere
October 28, 2004

 

Theodore C. Bestor is Professor of Anthropology and Japanese Studies at Harvard University, and is past president of the American Anthropological Association’s East Asian Studies Section and the Society for Urban Anthropology. His many publications include: “Neighborhood Tokyo” (1989),” Doing Fieldwork in Japan” (co-editor, 2003), and his most recent, “Tsukiji: The Fish Market at the Center of the World” (2004). His current research looks at the development of Japanese food culture and his ongoing project on “Global Sushi” examines the “global reach” of Japanese seafood markets, their impact on markets and fish industries, and the popularity of sushi and other types of Japanese foods..

1. Background

2. Neighborhood Tokyo: Miyamoto-cho

3. Tokyo's Tsukiji: The Fish Market and the Center of the World

4. Japanese Food Culture: Looking at Sushi as a Japanese Food and Icon

- Introduction

5. Issues of Food Safety and Hygiene

6. Lessons to be Learned from the Field: Linking Kansas with Japan

7. Concluding Thoughts

Japanese Food Culture: Looking at Sushi as a Japanese Food and Icon

- Introduction: Food in Japanese Culture

L: And then your research on tuna lead to your research on sushi. For those of us who don’t know much about Japanese cuisine, why is sushi considered traditional Japanese cuisine? I thought it was a recent invention.

B: That’s a really good question—I think it is a relatively recent invention. Sushi as we know it in the United States—that kind of sushi—was developed in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Japanese had been eating various kinds of sushi for a thousand years or more. Until the 19th and early 20th century, almost all sushi was involved in fermentation, pickling, soaking fish in soy sauce or vinegar. It was a means of preserving fish. It wasn’t fresh fish [with sushi].

L: The rice was thrown away.

B: Exactly. The biochemical interaction between the protein and the carbohydrates in the fish would create the fermentation process. So you’d throw away the rice and eat the fish. The fish would be like fish jerky. Some kind of preserved fish.

So, the idea of fresh sushi--fresh fish being part of sushi--is a relatively modern idea. So why is it considered traditional? I think part of it is through the interaction with the West. It is a style of cuisine that is so different from what Western cuisine has traditionally been.

L: Everybody says sushi is Japanese.

B: Yes—everybody including the Japanese say, “This is Japanese.” So, the distinction between this food that’s really special—even though it’s relatively recent—it’s special so it must be traditionally Japanese.

L: And seafood itself is an essential part of Japanese cuisine. Not just tuna, but a range of fish, you had mentioned the symbolism of fish like the tai [sea bream], because of its red color and—

B: Well, I think fundamentally that it is natural that since [Japan] is a small island nation surrounded by oceans, people are going to pay a lot of attention to seafood. So, I think seafood has been a major part of the Japanese diet all the way back to the Manyôshû [Ten Thousand Leaves, 8th century anthology of Japanese poems]. So that’s not surprising. And it’s not surprising that [seafood] is the kind of food that is the staple food for a society—one that is so varied by seasons and climate—that lots of symbolism is going to be attached to it.

Particularly, Americans in the 21st century are so accustomed to a standardized national diet. It doesn’t matter so much if you go to a supermarket in Dallas, Texas or Missoula, Montana or Gloucester, Massachusetts—you’re going to find pretty much the same things. And, throughout the year, you’re going to find pretty much the same things. But, I suspect, if we went back two or three generations, our grandparents or our great-grandparents would not have expected to find the same things everywhere. So, the regional associations--the notion that you eat particular dishes at particular times of the year--are a part of food culture that in the modern world we are losing. Japan has held on to that more than the United States has. And there is, I think, simply an aesthetic appreciation of food in Japan that Americans don’t have.

L: How is this obsession with food culture in Japan manifested in everyday life?

B: I’m sure lots of people have seen the “Iron Chef” which is almost an extreme version of the Japanese obsession with food. But, if you go to a typical convenience store in Japan, you’ll find hundreds of varieties of almost the same thing. They are competing for shelf space with very minutely different flavoring, minutely different coloring, and so forth. There is a very different sense of the consumer being given ultimate choice. Every chain that you see in a Japanese food floor, whether it's a convenience store that’s selling prepackaged foods, or a fresh food, like a fishmonger or a vegetable store, or whatever—the degree of care with which food is displayed and handled is really—

L: Quite extraordinary—

B: It is—you almost expect everybody in a food store is going to be wearing white gloves.

L: Some of them do.

B: Exactly.

L: In terms of foodstuffs, certain times of the year, are important—such as the first of the season [hatsumono]—first catch of the year.

B: Right, but that is not unknown in other food cultures as well. But there is a high premium, a high value placed in Japan on the first something of the year—the first harvest. And this gets back to the notion of seasonality and that there is the perfect season for every product. But in order to understand that and appreciate that as a consumer, you have to have an almost connoisseurship level of understanding. [For example] in this particular region in Japan, peaches ripen at this time of year—therefore, May, in such and such prefecture, is the height of perfection.

L: That, of course, the media and television such as travelogue programs capitalize on this notion.

B: Right—where they go off in search of [such things as] the perfect peach.

L: Somehow, everything ends up being oishii [delicious]—

B: And the amount of emotion that goes into saying those things.

Next: Japanese Food Culture: Looking at Sushi as a Japanese Food and Icon, cont: Sushi in the United States