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Dr. Ted Bestor

Bringing Home the Sushi: Food as a way of understanding each other's livelihoods

Interview with Theodore C. Bestor
Professor
Department of Anthropology and Reischauer Institute for Japanese Studies
Chair of the Social Anthropology Wing, Department of Anthropology
Harvard University

By Norma Sakamoto-Larzalere
October 28, 2004

 

Theodore C. Bestor is Professor of Anthropology and Japanese Studies at Harvard University, and is past president of the American Anthropological Association’s East Asian Studies Section and the Society for Urban Anthropology. His many publications include: “Neighborhood Tokyo” (1989),” Doing Fieldwork in Japan” (co-editor, 2003), and his most recent, “Tsukiji: The Fish Market at the Center of the World” (2004). His current research looks at the development of Japanese food culture and his ongoing project on “Global Sushi” examines the “global reach” of Japanese seafood markets, their impact on markets and fish industries, and the popularity of sushi and other types of Japanese foods..

1. Background

2. Neighborhood Tokyo: Miyamoto-cho

3. Tokyo's Tsukiji: The Fish Market and the Center of the World

4. Japanese Food Culture: Looking at Sushi as a Japanese Food and Icon

- Sushi in the United States

5. Issues of Food Safety and Hygiene

6. Lessons to be Learned from the Field: Linking Kansas with Japan

7. Concluding Thoughts

Japanese Food Culture: Looking at Sushi as a Japanese Food and Icon

- Sushi in the United States

L: Talking about bluefin tuna again—going back to the U.S. market—was it in demand as much as it is now? What did people in the U.S. think about bluefin tuna before?

B: Well—that’s a great question—I’ve talked to older people in the fishing business and essentially until the 1960s, bluefin tuna was really not a commercial species. It was a sports fish. If you caught it and were trying to make a living, you would sell it for cat food or sometimes it would be canned and sold like “Charlie the Tuna.” There wasn’t a special market for it [bluefin tuna]. So the only real attention it got was as a trophy fish. People would hire a fishing boat and go out for the day and if they caught a tuna, they’d have it stuffed and mounted over their fireplace.

So, it’s really I think the case that it wasn’t until the 1970s, that the Japanese fish buyer began to appear on the east coast of the United States. That people started to identity tuna as a commercially important fish. At least that’s when the Americans began to identity it.

L: In conjunction with that, is that when sushi started to be discovered in the United States? It’s cool to eat sushi now but at one time it wasn’t popular to eat raw fish on rice—

B: It is almost that time, I’d say—it begins—it’s a reflection of several things. It’s a reflection of Japanese economic power. That increasingly, Japanese businessmen were doing business in the United States and sushi restaurants in major American cities sort of developed in the first wave, as places where Japanese business people could take their American clients to impress them, with this exotic cuisine. And, similarly, at the same time, American business people were beginning to go to Tokyo more and more, and of course being taken out.

So, if you look at different kinds of “ethnic foods,” in the United States, North American, more generally—most ethnic foods start out with immigrant populations. pirogi or spaghetti or tacos, or whatever. It starts out as kind of a working class immigrant food and gradually spreads outside in which the elite gourmet replaces it at the upper echelon.

The history of Japanese food in the United States is a top-down history rather than a bottom-up history. The Japanese American communities on the West coast really didn’t introduce Japanese food to the American public. There are good historical reasons for that—the anti-Japanese sentiment on the West coast, the impact of World War II, the [Japanese-American] internment camps—one can easily argue that for Japanese-Americans in the postwar period, advertising their difference and advertising the unique, special qualities of their cuisine would have been culturally impossible. You are not trying to emphasize your differences.

L: They are trying to act the same—

B: Exactly. So, I think it’s with the growth of international business with North America and Japan, starting in the 1960s and 1970s, that sushi becomes this very elite, very specialized high status cuisine.

L: And it is always identified as a Japanese food too, isn’t it?

B: Right, though it’s probably changing. It’s now so common, even in Boston, you can walk into an ordinary supermarket and find sushi.

L: Definitely not made by Japanese chefs—

B: Yes, not made by Japanese chefs. But you are right, it is still identified as Japanese. But in a generation I bet it won’t be. It will join the taco and the pizza and the hamburger as finger food.

L: And sushi is an excellent example of globalization of food.

Next: Japanese Food Culture: Looking at Sushi as a Japanese Food and Icon, cont —Sushi as fast food