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Bill Fielding, COO, Creekstone Farms


Exporting U.S. Beef to East Asia

Interview with Bill Fielding,
COO, Creekstone Farms

By Sheree W. Willis
April 19, 2004

 

1. Developing the market for U.S. beef in Japan

2. Products for the Japanese market

3. The Japanese requirement for BSE testing

4. Thoughts on the future: beef in Asian markets, the U.S. beef industry

Developing the market for U.S. beef in Japan

Willis: We think that there is a real lack of awareness around Kansas about how important Asian markets are, and we understand that you have made quite a contribution to developing that market, particularly in Japan, for American beef. I would love to hear just how that came about. How did you first become aware of the interest in Japan in American beef?

Fielding: Well, I’ve been going to Japan for 25 years. I worked for Cargill for a long time, back when we were first, as an industry, building the market in Japan, getting our product over there. I think that the Meat Export Federation has done a very good job over the years. [The representative] speaks fluent Japanese, has lived in Japan and, for the whole industry, that organization has performed a very good service. But back when people were first starting, it was really small companies that started the business in Japan. Then the bigger companies started to realize how lucrative [the market] was and how it could grow. IBP was probably the leader, as they were in the U.S. [They were] quick to see that opportunity and to develop products specifically for Japan.

The Japanese customer would come over. This was pretty hard for the big packers especially. They needed to accept that [the Japanese buyers] would come in to your plant and be there on the line. You could learn a lot of lessons from their attention to detail and the importance to them of fitting with their requirements. And if you did, you were able to profit from that. So, it was worth while.

And the loyalty—the thing that is great, specifically to Japan, is that their loyalty is just tremendous. I know that from when I was with Excel, fighting that competitively, because IBP was one of the first ones and even though we knew and could show that our product was every bit as good. For [products] like outside skirts or hanging tenders, IBP could get five or 10 cents a pound more than what we could at Excel for years. But it was because that customer liked the consistency and [after] [a Japanese buyer] initially says "great, we'll buy this," then it takes [a competitor] a long time to get that business away from someone who has established that [relationship]. So, when you understand that and deal with it, you just learn the lesson that, you've got to respond to the customer and, if you do, they will be a great customer for a long, long time.

W: What have you learned about how to engender that kind of loyalty with Japanese customers? What techniques have you used to develop those relationships?

 

F: Well, it's really pretty simple, in that it takes a lot of time, but it's worthwhile. You have got to establish the trust. You can't just do something one time. You have to repeat it and repeat it and repeat it. Whatever you agree to, that's what you've got to do. The personal relationship is very important. You build that trust level, but then the product has to perform. You can't just get it by strictly personal relationships. You've got to combine [those relationships] with great product, in the way that they've asked for it, over a long period of time. You've always got to be fair. That may mean that say, there [is] a shortage of a product, where you could charge a lot more money, but you develop a fair market premium for what you're doing. That, too, is part of this. They will pay a premium but they also, like anyone, would not want to feel that they were being taken advantage of. So, even right now, if the borders opened up right away, we could probably charge a lot more than where we would price the product, but we'd price the product at a very fair price, probably at an even lower price than what they might be paying.

It gets involved too, in things like animal handling. And that's becoming more important to the U.S. as well but, [they want to know] that we're handling animals properly, putting less stress on the animals, which goes into the quality of the product. We are the only plant in the country that I know of that has indoor pens. We're certainly the only plant that only handles one breed of cattle. [The cattle] can be crossbred, but [they are] at least 50 percent or more Angus. So, to have the quality of the product, every item, even our offal items, are all consistently coming from the same basic genetics. That's a plus—being able to trace cattle back. In Japan you will see, [in retail markets] they will show pictures sometimes of the ranchers, of the farmers, so that [the shoppers] know that their meat is coming from certain producers. You can also see in this picture [taken in a retail grocery store] the sign showing that the beef [for sale] is BSE-tested. And here's what just kills me. They are giving away free samples of Australian beef, so they can get the consumer really liking Australian beef, so that when we go back, it will take a really long time to get our market share back.

In almost all cases, the Japanese ask for something that they care about. They're very smart business people. They know that doing extra things cost money and that a processor has to get a return on that, but they know that it's important to their consumers and their customers. That's how they built their systems, [with] attention to detail.

W: Do you have some long-term friends in Japan, whom you have visited over there?

F: Yes, I do. I've had some to my home, and in some cases I've been to their homes. But I play golf with them, have a few beers with them. Fortunately, drinking is not quite as predominant as it used to be, but, yes, I have a lot of friends over there, and I think very highly of them.

W: Do they visit here frequently?

F: Oh yes, what normally will happen is that they will send in some of their representatives to just take a look at the plant and what we're doing, and then they'll go up another level. The first level says this is a great product and we should follow up on this. Then, they'll send one higher level that will come in. They'll take a look at it and then usually a third trip will take place, and then they will start to buy product. They first get a sample, then a little bigger sample. And in some cases they'll take frozen product, then go to fresh product and just keep taking those steps till it gets to just exactly where they had in mind. And so, we started out [that way] at Creekstone. It's been around four or five years. We were having other plants process the product. And we were processing at this plant right before [the plant was] closed [and then purchased by Creekstone],…but it was just a small fraction of what we are now selling. So, we virtually started out from almost zero and built it up to where we were doing thirty percent of our total business in exporting, and almost half of that was to Japan. So, in a matter of about eight or nine months, we built up a tremendous business. You can only do that if all the products are great and all the things we talked about are done very, very well. So, we were feeling great about it until December 23rd.

W: In addition to the processing side of things, are the Japanese [buyers] also interested in looking at production? Do they want you to take them to ranches?

F: Yes, we have a nice advantage with our farm in Kentucky that John Stewart started. We have one of the best genetic experts in the country. We've got a staff of people there who are doing the best work in combining the best traits in the animal, not just for the finished product, but for the cow-calf side, the feedlot side of it, and the processing side of it, so that we end up having an animal that's going to work for the whole system and come up with a very high quality, consistent product. That's where we take them and show them how we work on that and what those judging factors are. They can see the bulls; they can see the offspring; they can see how we are working with feedlots and backgrounders and how we get those animals. We either sell bulls or we sell semen. Not all of the cattle we put through are coming from that [breeding program]. That's our long-term dream down the road, but our experts there will work with other producers that have large operations and help them. Or, [when] we identify a producer that has cattle that similar to what we think are the best, we try to track those cattle and place them in feedyards that are closer [to us]. We take our Japanese customers to farms, to feedlots, just trace the cattle all the way through. Usually when they come over here, they do a combination trip. They enjoy seeing it.

 

Next: Products for the Japanese market