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Authentic Voices:
Conversations on Food and Agriculture

 
Professor Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney

Food for Thought: On Rice, Beef, Nature, Food Safety, and McDonald’s in Japan

Interview with Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney
William F. Vilas Research Professor of Anthropology, University of Wisconsin-Madison

By Norma Sakamoto-Larzalere
March 12, 2004

 

Professor Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney is a William F. Vilas Research Professor of Anthropology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. An expert in the social, cultural, and symbolic anthropology of Japan, she earned her Ph.D. from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She is the author of 12 books in English and Japanese, including “Illness and Culture in Contemporary Japan: An Anthropological View” (1984), “The Monkey as Mirror: Symbolic Transformations in Japanese History and Ritual” (1987), “Rice as Self: Japanese Identities Through Time” (1993), and “Kamikaze, Cherry Blossoms, and Nationalisms: the Militarization of Aesthetics in Japanese History” (2002). Professor Ohnuki-Tierney has been awarded the Guggenheim, National Endowment for the Humanities, and Japan Foundation fellowships, and is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.

1. Background

2. Significance of Rice and other Foods in Japan

3. Concept of Nature and what is Natural in Japanese Foods

4. Food Safety in Japan

5. McDonald’s and Changing Table Manners in Japan

6. Globalism and the Japan/United States Food Market

7. Concluding Thoughts

Concept of Nature and what is Natural in Japanese Foods

L: You mention in your book about nature as being culturalized—could you explain what the concepts of nature and what is natural as is relates to Japanese cuisine and in particular, rice? Are these concepts different from the Western perspective?

OT: I think every nature is culturalized. Except the Japanese concept of nature doesn’t have the wild nature. Americans really like wild nature when in fact it’s not that wild. The Japanese don’t have an appreciation for wild nature. In the case of Japanese food, what is really stressed is freshness. So the food is much more expensive, but at the same time it’s fresh. In Japan, unlike in America in which you buy food for the week, you buy on a daily basis. I mentioned about the unripened fruit in American supermarkets to some Japanese who were not terribly wealthy, and they said to me that the Japanese consumers would never tolerate that. And so if you go to any supermarket [in Japan] food is very expensive but just gorgeous. Everyone just buys for the evening, for the day, and not for the week or month. But this is true in France too—in Paris people buy food for the day—so you see many men and women buying bread and other food items in the late afternoon.

L: What about this concept of nature becoming natural? For example, how food is manipulated to look natural, such as fish, prepared in fancy restaurants, is served a certain way so it still flaps its fins and is presented as if it were still alive—

OT: Yes, but I think in case of freshness, the Japanese consumer is much more educated, when it comes to vegetables, and especially when it comes to fish. I’m appalled to see browned tuna even in fairly good stores! The Japanese are trained to look at the eyes of the fish—so they can tell how fresh it is.

L: Do you think there is a distinction with other foods such as Chinese or Korean food?

OT: The distinction between Japanese and other foods—the Japanese chefs are determined by their ability to select the best raw materials rather than their ability to cook. So Chinese and Korean and especially French food, are all cooked. So that’s an important distinction.

 

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