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Authentic Voices:
Conversations on Food and Agriculture

 
Professor Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney

Food for Thought: On Rice, Beef, Nature, Food Safety, and McDonald’s in Japan

Interview with Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney
William F. Vilas Research Professor of Anthropology, University of Wisconsin-Madison

By Norma Sakamoto-Larzalere
March 12, 2004

 

Professor Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney is a William F. Vilas Research Professor of Anthropology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. An expert in the social, cultural, and symbolic anthropology of Japan, she earned her Ph.D. from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She is the author of 12 books in English and Japanese, including “Illness and Culture in Contemporary Japan: An Anthropological View” (1984), “The Monkey as Mirror: Symbolic Transformations in Japanese History and Ritual” (1987), “Rice as Self: Japanese Identities Through Time” (1993), and “Kamikaze, Cherry Blossoms, and Nationalisms: the Militarization of Aesthetics in Japanese History” (2002). Professor Ohnuki-Tierney has been awarded the Guggenheim, National Endowment for the Humanities, and Japan Foundation fellowships, and is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.

1. Background

2. Significance of Rice and other Foods in Japan

3. Concept of Nature and what is Natural in Japanese Foods

4. Food Safety in Japan

5. McDonald’s and Changing Table Manners in Japan

6. Globalism and the Japan/United States Food Market

7. Concluding Thoughts

McDonald’s and Changing Table Manners in Japan

L: You mentioned Mc Donald’s—how is McDonald’s seen by the Japanese? Is it seen as a part of Americana? Is there a generational difference in the perception of McDonald’s?

OT: I think initially Den Fujita [founder of McDonald’s in Japan] tried to link McDonald’s with Americana. McDonald’s introduced the idea that you can eat standing up—that was from the perspective of Japanese table manners revolutionary. He tried to promote in McDonald’s magazine, using blonde Americans and stars [stars and stripes] as part of the McDonald’s image. But then as McDonald’s became more domesticated, to the extent that little children from Japan were quoted here in the U.S. saying, “I’m glad they have McDonald’s here in the United States.” [They thought] McDonald’s [hamburger] was a Japanese food!

L: What do the older generation in Japan think about McDonald’s? I think in the United States, McDonald’s seem to appeal to the senior citizens and is a gathering place for them as well as for younger people. Do you think it’s the same in Japan?

OT: I don’t think that much. There are older people eating at McDonald’s but it’s still considered a snack food rather than restaurant food--as after school food, before going to juku [private cram school]—now it’s very much an in thing to do with friends after school or sometimes young mothers with children. And just like here, McDonald’s has introduced things like birthday parties. But as the Japanese people get older they go back to [traditional] Japanese food.

L: Do you eat at McDonald’s here in the United States or in Japan?

OT: Not really.

L: You mentioned how McDonald’s changed table manners in Japan—your discussion of the hand—as a kind of liminal part of the body?

OT: It’s the part of the body that touches outside so to speak—handles money, the railing of stairways, public places—so it’s the dirty part of the body. If you observe people eating at McDonald’s, you’ll find people holding on to the wrapping when they eat the food. When ice cream was introduced, they came up with a cup holder so you didn’t have to touch the cone.

L: Also, you mentioned about sipping a beverage with a straw as revolutionary too.

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