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Authentic Voices:
Conversations on Food and Agriculture

 
Professor Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney

Food for Thought: On Rice, Beef, Nature, Food Safety, and McDonald’s in Japan

Interview with Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney
William F. Vilas Research Professor of Anthropology, University of Wisconsin-Madison

By Norma Sakamoto-Larzalere
March 12, 2004

 

Professor Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney is a William F. Vilas Research Professor of Anthropology at the University of Wisconsin-Madison. An expert in the social, cultural, and symbolic anthropology of Japan, she earned her Ph.D. from the University of Wisconsin-Madison. She is the author of 12 books in English and Japanese, including “Illness and Culture in Contemporary Japan: An Anthropological View” (1984), “The Monkey as Mirror: Symbolic Transformations in Japanese History and Ritual” (1987), “Rice as Self: Japanese Identities Through Time” (1993), and “Kamikaze, Cherry Blossoms, and Nationalisms: the Militarization of Aesthetics in Japanese History” (2002). Professor Ohnuki-Tierney has been awarded the Guggenheim, National Endowment for the Humanities, and Japan Foundation fellowships, and is a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences.

1. Background

2. Significance of Rice and other Foods in Japan

3. Concept of Nature and what is Natural in Japanese Foods

4. Food Safety in Japan

5. McDonald’s and Changing Table Manners in Japan

6. Globalism and the Japan/United States Food Market

7. Concluding Thoughts

Globalism and the Japan/United States Food Market

L: In consideration of globalism and transnationalism in relation to foods—in various studies such as in anthropology—

OT: Globalism is actually only one side of the phenomenon. You see ethnic revivalism and cultural revivalism—yet at the same time you see all this bloodshed for nationalism or ethnicity as in Sri Lanka or in the former Yugoslavia—so I don’t think we can just consider globalism. After celebrating globalism, then 9-11 came and suddenly the "we" versus "they" distinction became loud and clear.

Also, anthropologists haven’t come up with a term to distinguish the current globalism from earlier globalism, for example at the time of colonialism, and how the colonization of the New World changed the eating habits of the old country. Like the use of sugar and all of that.

What is the spread of capitalism, what is the spread of imperalism?--versus current globalism with it origin in the United States. The United States is the epicenter of globalism. There are different kinds of globalization. I think we have to come to terms with the time old phenomenon of globalism and what is new about the current situation.

Also, we should never forget there is the other side--which is the enormous tension over the demarcations among different ethnic and national groups.

L: Perhaps the term translocal might be a more accurate term to describe such things as the McDonald’s phenomenon in Japan and other countries? As you mentioned in your chapter on McDonald’s, the focus should be more on studying, “how new commodities become embedded in culture” and how culture, whatever that may be, is always changing and constantly in motion.

OT: I published an article called, “Historicization of the Culture Concept” [2001]. I think what really derailed us was to look at culture in a synchronic perspective. And so if we realize there has never been a pure culture—that culture is always in motion—and deny the notion of hybridity because it presupposes pure cultures--if you look at it that way, McDonald’s is not a new phenomenon.

L: Globalism now is seen as something new—

OT: Which is wrong.

L: In consideration of what we have discussed, do you envision changes in the global food market and the impact on the “culture” of contemporary Japan and the United States?

OT: There is hardly what we may call Japanese food in the first place. Now, Japanese restaurants feature 16-course Japanese menus—but we have absolutely no idea where these came from—probably from the tea ceremony in Kyoto. But it’s never the same. For example, my colleague treated me to a very fancy Japanese restaurant in the Ginza, and I ate some sea bream fish—there was a writing about the origin of the fish. A feudal lord, impressed by Portuguese food, came up with this dish. Also, the Chinese ramen, as seen in the film Tampopo, is considered Japanese food. So if you see food historically, it is going to be changing all the time.

L: And as you said, it’s a reflection of self.

OT: Yes, that’s right.

Next: Concluding Thoughts