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Dedication to quality: an interview with two homemakers in Tsukuba Science City, Japan

Interview with Hiroko Kajimura and Yasuko Munekata
Tsukuba Science City, Japan


By Norma Sakamoto-Larzalere
May 6, 2004

 

In the early 1970s, Hiroko Kajimura and Yasuko Munekata relocated with their scientist husbands and families to Tsukuba Science City, located approximately 30 miles northeast of Tokyo. Before moving to Tsukuba, they both experienced living overseas with their families—Mrs. Kajimura in Westchester County, New York, and Mrs. Munekata in Heidelberg, Germany. Mrs. Kajimura is the mother of two grown children and a longtime volunteer teaching Japanese to foreign researchers and their families at Tsukuba University. Mrs. Munekata is the mother of three grown children, a grandmother, and leader of various Catholic church volunteer groups in Tsukuba.

Tsukuba city center

Tsukuba Science City was planned by the Japanese government to further science and technology after World War II and was intended to be the home of future Nobel Prize winners. Construction of Tsukuba began in the 1960s, and today, the population of Tsukuba is approximately 200,000. City hall is promoting Tsukuba as the eco-model city of the future where science and nature can live in harmony. Tsukuba’s residents are a mixture of the scientists and their families and the original villagers who lived in the area, as well as the recent influx of people from Tokyo. The much-anticipated Jôban Express train line will be a direct link from Tsukuba Center to Akihabara Station in Tokyo, and is scheduled for completion in spring 2005.

1. Thoughts on Natural Foods, Beef, and Food Safety

2. More on Beef

3. Importance of Rice in Everyday Life

4. Generational Differences; Rice and Bread

5. Japanese and Foreign Food

 

Thoughts on Natural Foods, Beef, and Food Safety

Larzalere:: When we talk about Japanese food, it seems that it is important to have “natural-looking food”--fresh food, for example, like fresh fish--when it is served in a very beautiful restaurant—the fins are still flapping.

Mrs. Kajimura: Freshness is very important to the Japanese. Actually not now, but a few years ago, vegetables that were in the supermarket were in perfect form. That’s because these kind of perfect vegetables had a high selling value--but it is not natural--in a sense it’s very unnatural. For that reason, I go to the farmers market because they have very natural vegetables--sometimes eaten by worms-- but that means it is very safe-- if there are a lot of chemicals on the vegetables, the worms and insects won’t eat it. So, in that sense, natural food is imperfect merchandise--I prefer natural products.

L: Is it popular now to buy from the local farmers’ markets in the Tsukuba area? Do a lot of housewives buy local products from these markets?

Mrs. Munekata: Yes—in the Kansai area—such as in Kobe and Osaka, we can get very fresh products-- fish, meat, vegetables--good quality--so we can have food products much more naturally, without too many additives. As much as possible, we cook things in the original state.

L: Then, concerning food safety, do you think that these farming cooperatives are popular now because of average consumer’s concern about food safety?

Mrs. M: Right.


Beef

L: Then what do you think about the BSE [bovine spongiform encephalopathy] beef problem now? Are you concerned about what kind of beef you buy--or does it matter to you?

Mrs. K: It does matter.

L: So you agree then with the government ban then on the BSE right now?

Mrs. K: Yes.

Mrs. M: I buy my beef from the local butcher. It’s Japanese-raised beef.

L: And Mrs. Kajimura, where do you buy your beef? Do you also buy it from the local butcher?

Mrs. K.: For beef, I buy it there.

L: It’s different for pork?

Mrs. K: At the butcher’s. I can buy both beef and pork—but if I’m buying only pork, and sometimes chicken, I go to other stores.

L: Do you eat a lot of beef in your household? What kind of meat do you eat the most, beef, pork, or chicken?

Mrs. K: Pork and chicken. Not so much beef.

Mrs. M: My husband likes beef.

L: As much as fish? Do you eat very much fish?

Mrs. M: My husband doesn’t like fish.

Mrs. K: My husband likes fish very much. When he was younger, he loved beef but now he does not love it so much; he likes fish very much. In a week, I will usually have pork and chicken twice a week and fish, once or twice a week, and the other times I’ll serve beef.

L: Did you eat more beef when your children were home?

Mrs. K: Yes.

Mrs. M: When my children come home to visit we eat more beef--at least twice a week.

L: What kinds of cuts do you buy?

Mrs. K: We usually buy thin cuts.

L: So you usually make it sukiyaki style?

Mrs. K: Sukiyaki, fried, or fried with a vegetable--Chinese stir-fry style.

L: What about foods like gyûdon [beef rice bowl with thin strips of grilled beef and onion on rice]? Do you eat gyûdon at home?

Mrs. K: It’s actually not for a main dinner.

L: Is it considered a snack?

Mrs. K: Not a snack, but served for lunch—or as a very light meal.

L: Do you make it at home?

Mrs. K: If I make it, it's only for lunch. I only need one pan and one bowl so it's easy and simple to prepare.

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